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Aug. 14th, 2009 | 10:33 pm

Some quite extraordinary lies about the NHS are emerging on the other side of the pond, it appears, as the health insurance companies gear up to avoid... what? I'm not quite sure, since Mr Obama's healthcare proposals are certainly nothing to do with socialised medicine and are actually a bit of a con if  you ask me, but it appears that the companies think they might lose some tiny percentage of their profits, or some of their influence. Perhaps they don't want to a precedent set at all that anyone but themselves might be able to dictate anything to do with healthcare.

Anyway, all the ridiculous bullshit is going around quite publicly, and it seems that a lot of Brits are getting quite annoyed by it, but I can't say that I am. People who are saying that Stephen Hawkings would have died if he'd relied on the NHS (despite the fact that he's alive and he did rely on the NHS) and so on are either (a) propagandists or (b) idiots and I've no urge to talk to either. If somebody tries to tell me how bad the NHS is compared to the US healthcare system I am just going to laugh at them - hey son, you stick with your worse healthcare for more money, I'm happy with that.

I'm more worried that politicians in this country who are trying to degrade the NHS and move towards the US model are jumping on the "we love the NHS" bandwagon. The less opportunity these people get to even vaguely appear in support of the NHS, the better.

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Nina

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from: janinazew
date: Aug. 14th, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)
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I think your last point is right but on the flip side the public response suggests that fucking with the NHS is the one thing that could kill a political career. That's certainly the way I would read it if I was say, an advisor to Conservative central office.

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fridgemagnet

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from: fridgemagnet
date: Aug. 14th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
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True, but I think that's quite well known by now - Dave certainly takes every opportunity to say that the Tories are 100% behind the NHS these days, he was quite happy to slag off that Hannan bloke.

At the same time, the "reform" projects continue, mostly unchallenged in the press (maybe a few isolated tutting Guardian articles) and the Tories will just continue them, perhaps with different favoured companies, after the election.

My judgement as to what Labour want their legacy to be is (a) the NHS being structurally fucked to the point where it can't _help_ but become increasingly privatised, and (b) same with education, and while both are already pretty advanced, if there's a chance to get them back it rests on it being made clear what the effects of the reforms are. Broad "defend the NHS" campaigns are too easy for anybody to sign up to.

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lilyvalley

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from: lilyvalley
date: Aug. 14th, 2009 11:07 pm (UTC)
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The BS swirling around is astounding. Even Jon Stewart can't keep up with all of it.

P.S. Obama doesn't want to kill your grandma; vloky does. Just thought you should know.

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fridgemagnet

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from: fridgemagnet
date: Aug. 14th, 2009 11:20 pm (UTC)
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You know, if it was my gran vs vloky, I'd bet on my gran. She's got all the special moves down by now.

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Vloky

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date: Aug. 15th, 2009 10:04 am (UTC)
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You mean that guy who is the patron saint of herpes - your gran any day.
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