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Feb. 28th, 2009 | 07:21 pm

The folk at Migrationwatch and the Daily Mail alert us to a hidden threat in our midst:

However although the figures from the Government's Office for National Statistics show an increase in numbers of foreign born people they still fail to record the true impact of immigration because they record their children as British rather than second or third generation immigrants.

I must admit that this was not something I had previously considered. Obviously, as a right-thinking Brit I reported both of my parents for being Immigrants some time ago, though they seemed to have managed to avoid being sent back where they came from, probably because of some Politically Correct nonsense. However, I now find that I am not a proper Brit at all, but in fact a Secret Immigrant!

In my shock at this news I blacked out, and came round sitting in the park, about to sink my teeth into a swan. Hurling the bird from me in terror of what I had become and proper respect for Her Majesty, I felt some papers in the pocket of my coat that I didn't remember putting there. Extracting and reading them, I found that I had already set up two plumbing businesses and a mosque that afternoon.

I have decided that there is only one course of action left to me now to become the proper Brit that I had thought I was, and that is to move to the Costa del Sol, where I can safely discuss the country having gone to the dogs, the Human Rights Act and ZaNu-Labour with other real British folk.

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The Princess of Id

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from: danaseilhan
date: Feb. 28th, 2009 11:24 pm (UTC)
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So here's where I get nosy. Your parents are South African, and yet, white folks. So obviously their families cannot have originated IN South Africa. Where were they before that? Somewhere in Europe, likely?

I guess this is just another example of how, when the government of a historically majority-white country speaks of "immigrants," what they really mean is "brown people." It's the same here.

I still LOL about the "official language" of the U.S. and how it's supposed to be English when quite a few white folks who live in the U.S. now do not, in fact, descend from English people. I grew up, actually, listening to my grandparents speaking Americanized French. But I'm sixth-generation American. And what about American Indians whose ancestors didn't originally speak English either, and some of whom to this day don't speak it as their first language?

Why don't these bozos just admit it's about ethnic and racial dominance and not really about patriotism?

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Teresa

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from: bravencrazy
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 03:48 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I love it when the anti-immigration crowd bleats about immigrants of old, who all supposedly "learned English and assimilated." I know for a fact that both sets of my great-grandparents did not learn English until their kids (my grandparents and their siblings) went to school, then came home and taught it to them. And even then, my great gp's never spoke English perfectly; they stumbled around and had heavy accents. My grandparents and their siblings, OTOH, were bilingual English/Polish. My grandmother would routinely start a sentence in one language and finish it in the other, and peppered her English with Polish words.

Then they scream about all those terrible businesses that cater to Spanish speakers. When I cleaned out my great aunt's home after her death, I found a bunch of Polish-language funeral mass cards from local funeral homes, printed in the 50's and 60's and obviously meant to cater to the rather large Polish bilingual market that existed here back then.

Unfortunately, I didn't get old enough to become interested in learning Polish until after my grandparents had died. =( However, I did pick up a few words here and there. I had no idea that a comforter was called that until I was in junior high school. Until then, I called it by the Polish word, "pizhina" (sp?).

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The Princess of Id

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from: danaseilhan
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 05:56 am (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure that when Jean-Pierre Seilhan came to this country in the early 1800s, he never had to learn English at all. He was in south Louisiana, y'see. They all spoke French or Cajun back then. Their descendants would still be speaking it now, if not for the meddling of the State of Louisiana and if not for television.

My parents were part of the Lost Generation and were/are kind of embarrassed to learn Cajun. I said the word andouille in the presence of my father one day and he said, "What? We call that SAUSAGE around here!"

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fridgemagnet

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from: fridgemagnet
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
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There are a fair number of places around here with signs saying "Polish products sold here" (in Polish). A bit to the south is an area that has historically had a lot of Polish immigrants, and this particular area has always had loads of migrant workers as well - a few decades ago it was the Irish, now Australians, South Africans, Poles and actually pretty much everyone.

You see fewer signs though now that a lot of Poles are going back home.

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fridgemagnet

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from: fridgemagnet
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 02:22 pm (UTC)
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I'm not actually very good on family history, but all of my grandparents were immigrants too I believe - one Cornish, one English and two Scottish. They weren't Afrikaaners (who were originally Dutch).

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The Princess of Id

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from: danaseilhan
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 03:33 pm (UTC)
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Hah. Making it even less likely that your oh-so-security-conscious-let's-scare-the-immigrants government would even care that your parents are in the UK.

Shoot... even over here people don't care much about "illegal" UK immigrants. I read a story about one who was deported shortly after 9/11 because his paperwork wasn't in order, even though he had a wife and kids here(?? I thought marrying made him a citizen, or at least a permanent resident? apparently not), and I remember how outraged the tone of the article was--completely different from when the media discusses the very same things happening to Latino people.

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fridgemagnet

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from: fridgemagnet
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 06:49 pm (UTC)
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Being a native speaker of the... well, the most commonly accepted language in a country, anyway, counts for a lot. There are a lot of Australians in London, many of whom I'm sure don't have the right papers, but they meet with less scrutiny and criticism than, say, Poles, who are legally entitled to work here given that Poland is in the EU.

People used to talk about "immigrants" and how they had it so easy and didn't have to pay tax etc quite openly in front of me in the States, and I don't exactly hide my accent. (I wish I _hadn't_ had to pay tax, that would have been great, but no, just as much taxation as anyone else and also no representation or social security.)

Formal immigration and citizenship is a nasty process though, both US to UK and vice versa. The state is quite happy to have you working without rights, but try to go beyond that and you might start asking for stuff.

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The Princess of Id

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from: danaseilhan
date: Mar. 2nd, 2009 05:13 am (UTC)
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Oh god, that tax thing is so retarded. If a so-called "illegal" purchases anything whatsoever through legal establishments, they pay sales tax. If they rent from a legit landlord, they pay part of the property tax through their rent. Give me a break. Not you. The mouthbreathers who say this crap.

Yeah, not only did you not get Social Security, you paid into ours.

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Immigrants

from: anonymous
date: Mar. 1st, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
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My West Indian born husband and I (I thought I was British but I had an Italian ancestor in 1806 so I guess I am Italian, although I also had Spanish/German ancestors from the other side so best to say "European Union") were debating "immigration" with our Tory-Boy lodger who said "they" should all go back where they came from. Having realised he was talking to at least one immigrant he tried to soften the blow with the "of course, I didn't mean you" sort of comment.

I pointed out that he had told us that he was born to an Army father in Yemen and suggested that he might also like to go back where he came from. He wasn't our lodger for much longer.

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The Princess of Id

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from: danaseilhan
date: Mar. 2nd, 2009 05:14 am (UTC)
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hah.

There was this great political cartoon here in the States where this white guy in a three-piece and holding a briefcase was yelling and pontificating about how all those illegal immigrants should go back where they came from. This American Indian guy says to him, "I'll help you pack."

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